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Solid Remaster, But Description Contains a Major Misrepresentation on Amazon's Part,
This review is from: The Wall- Experience Version (Audio CD)
My main purpose in purchasing this CD was for the bonus material. However, the Experience Version contains three CDs, not four as stated by Amazon. Furthermore, this edition contains twenty-seven demos on one disc, not thirty-five demos over two discs. So, unless Amazon is selling a special edition (I did extensive research in deciding whether to purchase this or the $119 Immersion version, and did not see any mention of this anywhere), this version contains three CDs.
Discs 1 and 2 are the 2011 James Guthrie remasters of the album. Disc 3 contains 27 demos, all of which are "band" demos rather than Roger or David's "home demos." Since the demos were my main interest and reason for buying this, I will address that topic first. The Immersion version does contain two CDs worth of demos, containing a total of 64. Since I do not have that version, I will not address whether I am lacking anything essential by not having the 37 additional demos that appear on that version. Based on my research I am not. At least 22 of the 37 demos on Immersion are excerpts of Roger's home recordings totaling about 15 minutes. Two others are David's demos of "Comfortably Numb" and "Run Like Hell." Other than that, the remainder appear to be additional band demos at various stages of development, all of which appear in at least one form or another on Experience. The actual demos themselves are titled "Work in Progress" and are aimed at giving a glimpse into how the project came to its final form. My interest was more in hearing alternate versions of songs and the two songs that did not make the album. In my opinion, except for completists, the Experience version does a good job at this. The two titles that did not make the album are "Teacher Teacher (later appearing as "The Hero's Return" a B side from the "Final Cut.") and "Sexual Revolution," (later re-worked as "4:41 a.m.") from Roger's "Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking." The remaining 25 demos range from interesting to "I only need to hear this once." Probably the most interesting item here is "The Doctor" which is an early version of "Comfortably Numb." The sound quality of the demos varies from mediocre to passable. In my estimation, there are probably no more than ten that are substantial and that I will listen to again. After listening to all 27 (totaling 75:04) minutes, I cannot imagine listening to another disc of demos. Therefore, for my purpose, I think the Experience Edition was the appropriate choice. Please note, I am merely comparing the Immersion and Experience versions for demos. There are numerous other reasons one might wish to purchase the 7 disc Immersion set.
As far as the Discs 1 and 2, I will not comment on the music because it has all been said before. The album is a classic. The main issue here is the quality of the remastering. I compared my copy from the "Shine On" box to this on high end equipment and honestly could not hear any dramatic difference between the two. The 2011 remaster sounded slightly less bass heavy, slightly louder, and the vocals and drums appeared to be more upfront in the mix. However, I had to strain to hear this and the difference was very slight.
Like the other "Experience Editions" ("Dark Side" and "Wish You Were Here"), "The Wall" is packaged in a cardboard case. The booklet is similar to the LP in attempting to recreate the artwork and handwritten lyrics. However, no information is provided regarding history, guest musicians, etc.
So how do I rate this? I give it four stars. Five stars for Discs 1 and 2 and three stars for Disc 3. I think it is the weakest of the three expanded albums from the series because it has the least essential bonus material. There is also less of difference in sound quality, which is excellent, over the earlier remasters. This is likely due to the fact it is a newer release and always had excellent fidelity.
If you are interested in getting a new copy of "The Wall" with an extra disc of material you probably won't listen to more than a few times, this is a great purchase. If you have either of the previous two "Wall" remasters, there is no substantial difference in sound here. If you merely want a new copy without the extra disc, the standard 2011 remaster is the best option. If you have the money and can spring for the Immersion Version, I would say go for it. It is the most complete version of this classic album available at this time. However, I do want to stress again that the Experience Version contains 3 CDs with 27 demos on Disc 3. Anyone interested in more than this must purchase the Immersion Version.
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Initial post: Feb 28, 2012 9:20:51 PM PST
Thanks for the in depth review. I, also, was unsure whether 3 or 4 discs were being offered on Amazon for the Experience version. From the sound clips I've heard, these demos do seem different from some of the bootleg demos of the Wall I've heard the last few years.
Posted on Feb 28, 2012 10:47:00 PM PST
Christopher L. says:
It looks like Amazon corrected the mistake to show it as containing three discs.
Posted on Mar 1, 2012 12:58:33 PM PST
Last edited by the author on Mar 1, 2012 1:00:07 PM PST
Kevin M. Smith says:
your post is very informative....as suspected there isn't a fourth disc, which was likely not a necessary inclusion
this lastest CD of this epic, "The Wall" is worth the purchase, the annoying cardboard packaging not withstanding
Posted on Mar 2, 2012 2:38:59 AM PST
T. MEETHAN says:
I ordered before when it said 4 discs... For shame Amazon!
Posted on Apr 5, 2012 5:19:36 PM PDT
My Immersion set has 7 total (one DVD), and you are missing out on some awesome "demos"..... 2 are the album remastered, 2 are the re-ordered and remastered "In the Flesh" Live, and 2 are Demos...
Posted on May 24, 2012 12:49:21 AM PDT
Last edited by the author on May 18, 2013 5:47:03 PM PDT
Jeff N says:
Some time soon, I HOPE that Amazon will STOP LINKING REVIEWS UNDER TOTALLY DIFFERENT RELEASES! Look at The Wizard of Oz DVDs for another example. People spend time writing good reviews on the quality of the remastering, the look of blu-ray, the bonus features on the different discs, and Amazon mixes them all together, making them almost completely worthless! ..... Over 1,000 reviews on the original DVD, the 2 DVD set, the 3 DVD set, the 4 DVD set, the Emerald Edition, the 70th Anniversary Set, and the Blu-Rays! ... ALL MIXED TOGETHER BECOMING HOPELESSLY USELESS!!!! AND AMAZON IS NOT LISTENING TO PEOPLE WHO CONSTANTLY TELL THEM TO PLEASE CHANGE THIS!!!!
In reply to an earlier post on Jul 27, 2012 9:03:50 PM PDT
David Lord says:
I agree Jeff! First thing that annoyed me when I got to this site!
Posted on Mar 4, 2013 12:55:51 PM PST
Scott A. Cabler says:
I think what you've received is a bogus Immersion box set. According to www.cduniverse.com, there are 7 CDs total. I compared the track listings on the CDUniverse site to the track listings on the Amazon site and they match. You can even listen to all the tracks (except what's on disc 7 of course) included in the Immersion box set. There is only one Immersion box set. There are no box set variations.
In reply to an earlier post on Mar 4, 2013 3:44:20 PM PST
Jeff N says:
What do you think about a petition?
Posted on May 18, 2013 1:52:10 PM PDT
Michael Dobey says:
3 discs. that's all it ever had.