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Great small camcorder,
This review is from: Flip Mino Video Camera - White, 2 GB, 1 Hour (1st Generation) (Electronics)
The Flip Mino is a great small camcorder for the price, mainly because of the form factor. It's a lot thinner and smaller than the Flip Video Ultra Series Camcorder, 60-Minutes (White), yet yields equal performance. The only negative is that it doesn't take AA batteries like the Flip Ultra because it's so thin. Instead, it has a non user replaceable built-in lithium ion battery like an iPod.
The Flip Mino does not neccessarily replace the Flip Ultra and the Flip Ultra is being sold side by side with the Flip Mino. And, the Flip Mino doesn't come in as many colors, only a black version and a white version.
I would say If you already have a Flip Ultra, you may not want or need to buy the Flip Mino (unless you really want the smaller form factor or you have money to burn) since it yields about the same video and audio quality. If you don't own a Flip video camera yet, the Flip Mino is probably the one to get unless you require AA batteries which admittedly is nice because they are readily available everywhere. I actually prefer AA batteries over an internal rechargeable battery that over a few years will start to lose it's charge and not last as long between charges.
That said, the Flip Mino is pretty nice because it's so small and thin.
Even though I have a digital point and shoot still camera that can shoot video, I find it easier to shoot video with the Flip Mino. The vertical form factor is better suited to shooting video. The built in software is nice and it's built into the camera so you need not install anything on your computer.
The Flip Mino is a great 'take everywhere' video camera that fits in your pocket and can yield some creative and endearing videos.
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Initial post: Jun 4, 2008, 2:38:42 PM PDT
Steve Brandano says:
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 4, 2008, 2:48:18 PM PDT
Let's see, this guy has reviewed over 200 products on Amazon. What do you think, Einstein?
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 4, 2008, 8:35:52 PM PDT
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John Peters says:
The comment above by Bobbity adds nothing to the review unless you read the post above it, but since that comment is hidden it makes this comment appear like it has nothing to add.
Posted on Jun 4, 2008, 10:36:20 PM PDT
Posted on Jun 5, 2008, 8:34:37 AM PDT
I've just read a useful critical Washington Post review ("The Flip v. My Cheap Canon [film] Camera: Flip Loses Across The Board") and, turns out, you can buy a Canon digital camera (SD750) for the same price that takes video in the same resolution (640x480), supports upgrades for extra memory/battery, has better zoom and sound, similar size, has better editing and, of course, takes still pictures.
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 5, 2008, 11:39:50 AM PDT
Did you also read in that "review" that the so-called Washington Post reviewer (who is actually just a Gearlog writer) had never used or seen the camera. Very unprofessional.
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 5, 2008, 5:25:30 PM PDT
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credit risk says:
Yeah that's bad. He knocks other reporters too for just repeating press info in their reviews and then all he does is compare the paper specs without trying it.
He does alot of shortsighted spec comparisons without really looking into why folks like the Flip.
I have a similar Canon digital camera and I too was a bit skeptical about the Flip. So much so that I returned my first one.
But I bought it again. And here's why.
First, the video quality of the Flip is better than the Canon. The colors pop. The Canon's video seems noisier. The Flip is much better in low-light too. One spec the "so-called Washington Post reviewer" doesn't compare is the f-stop on the lenses of both products. The Flip's is lower which means better low light afaik.
SEcond, the sound is better on the Flip. The Canons tend to pick up some noise coming from the camera while this isn't the case with the Flip. The Flip also records in stereo sound while the Canon does mono.
Third, when the wife is taking pictures of the kids with the Canon I can take video of the kids with the Flip. I found this out during Easter the hard way. I was taking video with the Canon (I had returned the Flip at this point) and the wife wanted me to take pictures. I couldn't do both.
Fourth, the Flip has that built-in usb arm. With my CAnon I always have to pull out the cord from the drawer and hook it up and put it back when I'm done. It doesn't sound like much work, but it's one of those tedious things that feels great not to do all the time.
Fifth, the Flip Ultra is easier to hold. I can't vouch for the Mino, but you need 2 hands to hold a Canon point and shoot while you only need one to hold the Flip Ultra. It's because the Flip is held vertically while a CAnon point and shoot is held horizontally. It may not seem like a biggie, but it's more of an advantage than you might think once you've used both.
6th, The Flip Ultra is more durable. Maybe I shouldn't say more durable because the Flip feels a bit cheap and like a toy, but I don't feel scared when my young kids have their hands on the Flip. There's not as many things to break on it I guess. Mostly I guess I'm afraid the kids will mess with the retracting lens on the Canon point and shoot.
There's also a few other pluses. The Flip is a bit easier to use. There's no pop-out lens to worry about. There's not 10 different shooting modes or 30 other options. It does video with the press of a button. The Flip's video takes up less space by default. (an important consideration as video storage can take up alot of hard drive space as the months and year go by.)
The Flip doesn't play as nice with the Mac. I will give the CAnon that. But once you figure out you can get a program (including a free one) to convert the Flip video to something the Mac can use and you find a good setting/format that works for you then it's much less of a problem. The Canon as I said takes up alot more video space so you might end up converting that as well.
The Canon has the better zoom, but most Canon Point and Shoots can't zoom while filming. Also 3x zoom isn't enough to reach across a sports field or auditorium so it's not that useful. And video gets a lot shakier when zoomed in.
The advantage of a bigger LCD of a Canon point and shoot is obvious, but the disadvantage might not be. And that's worse battery life. The battery life on a Canon point and shoot for shooting video is much worse than on the Flip Ultra in my experience. Not sure that's all because of the lcd, but ...
I will give the CAnon another advantage and that's the ability to add more memory. If you're on a long trip then you can load up and batteries and memory cards and shoot away. This would only be practical with the Flip Ultra if you also had access to a computer to offload the video to. But most of us probably don't take more than 1 trip/yr like that if at all. For those occasions then just carry your Canon or other point and shoot and be happy. :) Maybe the Flip folks will let you unload video to a usb key in the future though.
That's why people like the Flip.
Posted on Jun 6, 2008, 1:04:57 PM PDT
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 9, 2008, 8:04:15 PM PDT
Deborah C. says:
Thank you for your comparison of the Canon and the Flip. I am happy that I ended up buying the Flip camera. It will suit my needs just fine. I am a mother of two teenagers and regret not having a lot of video of important events, etc. because either the video camera battery went dead and/or I forgot how the darn thing worked. I can't wait to use the Flip...it sounds fantastic. I just have one question: can I put my videos on a DVD once they are uploaded into the computer?
In reply to an earlier post on Jun 16, 2008, 9:13:01 AM PDT
K. K. Lee says:
I have both The Flip AND the Canon SD750, and they both have their pros and cons. However, for the price as well as quality, The Flip is so easy to use even kids can use it (and for the price you don't mind them using it)!