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Half of the package isn't even properly functional.,
This review is from: Zone of the Enders HD Collection (Video Game)
Man, where do I even start. Let me just start with this: Zone of the Enders 2 is one of my favorite games of all time, and easily my favorite robot game ever. That's probably why I'm even bothering to write this review. When I heard Konami was going to re-release the two games in HD, with a brand-new animated cutscene, and with the special edition of ZoE 2 (which was never released in the USA until now), I was looking forward to playing the 2 games again for the first time in a while.
However, despite 2 being on this collection, this is probably the most disappointing game-related purchase I've made since Metroid: Other M (big Metroid fan here). I know that I'm not changing much by writing this review, but I hope that it can shed more light onto why many people are complaining about this collection and that, in the very slim chance that a Konami rep is reading this, a patch will be made to alleviate the problems with the collection.
Let me make this simple:
-The Metal Gear Rising Demo is fun, despite being short (especially if you skip the cutscenes).
-Zone of the Enders 1 looks and runs as it should.
-The animated opening cutscene is masterfully done and, arguably, the most interesting part of this collection. Check it out on Youtube if you haven't!
-If I had to take a guess, Zone of the Enders 2 runs about roughly half the speed or so of the original PS2 version. The whole point of the ZoE series is to be a fast-paced robot action game. When the game plays as if I'm playing heavily drunk, something is wrong. I mean seriously, it's barely playable in this state and it's definitely not as fun to play as the PS2 version was (which had very minimal slowdowns). I understand that the game was not made for the PS3/360, but come on, Konami: there's, more or less, no excuse why the game can't run properly. The Metal Gear Solid HD Collection runs almost flawlessly.
-Zone of the Enders 1 isn't nearly as fun as it used to be back in the day. It's also incredibly short at only a few hours long. Somewhat of a weak argument, I admit. However, it is easily the weakest part of this collection.
-You're essentially paying $40/$60 (depending on what collection you purchased) for a demo, a really short (2-4 hours or so on your first playthrough), mediocre game (in my opinion), and a decent-length (6-8 hours or so), incredibly fun game (also in my opinion) that's been absolutely butchered by incompetent programmers. This package is, in its current state (as of November 1st, 2012), worth no more than $20, in my opinion.
Anyway, hopefully Konami will learn from from this mistake and make some sort of attempt to patch the 2nd Runner as soon as possible.
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Initial post: Nov 1, 2012 10:14:34 AM PDT
D. Miskinis says:
did you downloaded the patch released for it before playing? i too loved these games when they came out and would love to get the hd version, but not if 2 functions as poorly as you've stated it has
Posted on Nov 1, 2012 11:18:33 AM PDT
Yeah.... the "optional" ps3 Firmware patch 4.31 fixes a lot of the slowdown.
For the life of me, I don't understand why Sony does not force the patch seeing it seems to affect quite a few games in their catalog seeing they messed something up in patch 4.30.
Posted on Nov 1, 2012 11:41:04 AM PDT
It's not as obvious, but even ZOE1 has framerate issues compared to the PS2 version. High Voltage couldn't even handle an 11-year-old game right.
And no, firmware 4.31 seems to have no effect at all on the collection, even if it does on Monster Hunter 3rd and possibly some other games.
Posted on Nov 1, 2012 12:36:11 PM PDT
Grant Evans says:
Yeah, I had 4.31 when I started to play it. If that made it any better I'd HATE to see what it was like on 4.30.
In reply to an earlier post on Nov 1, 2012 8:08:31 PM PDT
TheGrimmling has been repeatedly lying about the effects of the 4.31 firmware patch. Don't believe anything he says about it. The patch was made for another game and had no effect on ZOE HD's performance; it still plays as poorly as before.
In reply to an earlier post on Nov 2, 2012 8:13:38 PM PDT
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Posted on Apr 25, 2013 10:47:26 PM PDT
Any update on this?
Has the framerate issue been patched correctly?
In reply to an earlier post on May 5, 2013 12:23:06 PM PDT
Smily Frodo says:
Soon enough it will be apparently since Kojima and company are looking into the issue. They promise to release a patch to fix the problem in ps3 version, and in Japan a new disc version of the collection will be released with patch in it. For us all who already have the game the patch will be free to download when released.
In reply to an earlier post on May 5, 2013 2:25:50 PM PDT
Grant Evans says:
Ok, nice. Sucks to hear about ZoE 3, but a patch to make the collection work is good news.
In reply to an earlier post on May 6, 2013 6:33:07 AM PDT
Smily Frodo says:
I'm still playing the same hopeful fan since ps2 days and hope it's just a delay and that ZoE3 is not entirely cancelled... Cause after all, Kazunori Yamauchi taught me to be patient when I waited for so long to get Gran Turismo 5 :D
Plus knowing how sneaky Kojima is, he might release still the vita version of the HD collection.
Here's the original translation from Kojima's podcast: